I posted the work-in-progress in the off-topic megathread, this is the finished version.
Piplash's track in Shadow Islet sounded like it could fit well in an ST12 (Indonesian rock band) song. I chose a cover of a song that I like of them as my inspiration (chorus is at 0:50 and 1:05 respectively).
Close-ups:
I drew this in the notes app and blurred the background in my gallery editor.
HOHOHO, what a song! I love it! And holy, does it redeem a lotta Monsters!
Meebkin, Nitebear, Boodoo, Arackulele, so many Monsters popped off! X'rt and Piplash did great too, but I think they need a smidge more.
The only one that didn't have a great time is Kazilleon, guess it'll have to wait for Poison islet.
There hasn't been a new Monster added to Composer since the Core Seasonals in 2022, it's due for an upgrade. Maybe we get the Workshoppers on Christmas Eve? I don't think the Fires or Magicals would come until the Ethereals are finished.
And by "sauce" I mean how much a Monster gets to play in the game when you add all of its islands together. So, Humbug, which appears on 2 islands and has plenty tracks, still doesn't have the sauce because it's so gosh darn quiet, and Fung Pray, with one track on ONE island, already achieved peak status.
Yes, this is incredibly subjective, but I tried to be objective. For example, I think Oogiddy is an amazing Monster, and plays a LOT on Workshop. But, I think most of the fandom still isn't convinced in his abilities. Getting another song will cement Oogiddy as the awesome percussionist he is!
The hope is that every Monster will enter the peak status tier once every islet releases
(There's a TL;DR at the end if you just want the notes, this one's long)
This is a continuation of a post I made a few days ago:
In it, I highlight that there are a lot of Monster eggs that could be zappable, but aren't because no existing inventory needs them. Out of all the options, the Ethereal Monsters have the most potential, because they have the Ethereal islets.
You see, the Dish-Harmonizer is the only Structure in the game, besides the Breeding Structure, that could zap eggs. All it takes is just adding the Zap button to the egg menu. Everything else works like a Nursery, and prepares the eggs for hatching. This is one of the reasons why the Egg Cups are seperate Structures.
So, every Ethereal could be zappable, except BeMeebEth, similiar to how all Naturals except Mimic are! And nothing is capitalizing on that! In the previous post, I mentioned that the Elder Celestials could take Ethereal eggs, but that's not enough!
You could make an entire island based on this, like a counterpart to Wublin island, but instead of Naturals, the statues would require Ethereals! An Ethereal zapping island, or EZI for short.
Now, I know what some of you are thinking: we got THREE zapping islands already! Do we really need another one? Well, I agree, Wublin, Celestial and Amber island aren't all that different from eachother. Aside from a few different mechanics, the actual process of zapping stays basically the same.
But the EZI would be entirely different purely because of how the Dish-Harmonizer works. It's an alternative to the Breeding Structure, with added difficulty. So the EZI is an alternative zapping island, with added difficulty! Not a daunting difficulty like zapping 70 Toe Jammer eggs, but a real challenge!
The Ethereal islets could use the added usefulness. I have to admit, they don't have much of a reason to exist, other than to give the Ethereals more songs. Giving them an actual, exclusive purpose would be very welcome!
Zapping Monsters would also make the islets mechanically more interesting! Zapping Monsters means sacrificing Meebs, so if you aren't careful, you could start losing a Meeb type over time. Right now, you just accumulate Meebs until you basically have an endless amount of every type. Zapping also means that you'd need to be careful with which Monsters you keep on the islet, since the Dish-Harmonizer needs Monsters to be put into it, which can't happen if you already zapped away all of your outputs.
Wildcards are another reason why we should get another zapping island in general. Now that Minor Paironormals on the Carnival produce them, they should get some more uses to balance out. Aside from Epic Wublins and Wubboxes, there aren't many late game inventories that would drive the demand for Wildcards up. EZI eggs would be pretty pricey, fitting that niche perfectly.
So, how would it work? The EZI would explicitly require the Ethereal islets, since it needs eggs from them. The Dish-Harmonizer would get a zapping button just like the Breeding Structure, in the menu before you send the eggs to the Egg Cups.
Since you can't directly choose which Monsters you will get out of any given Dish-Harmonization, you're mostly at the whims of RNG. Thankfully, you do get 2 eggs each time instead of 1, so you could double-zap any given result if both eggs are needed.
Dish-Wishes also exist. They wouldn't help you a ton (they already don't), but their main purpose is to act as a safety net, ensuring that after a while (a WHILE) you finally get that one specific Double/Triple you need. They would be so much more useful if you could somehow wish for a Quad, since each Quad is only zappable from their one islet. MPG himself also advocated for this multiple times.
And don't think I forgot about Ethereal island! It would work as a sort of support island to the islets. Unlike them, it has a standard Breeding Structure, letting you actually choose which Ethereals you're going to get and zap. It's balanced by the fact that it only has the Single and Double Ethereals, so the other half of the Monsters are exclusive to the islets. The Breeding cooldowns on Ethereal island are very long, as well.
Now, who would BE on the EZI? Well, aside from the Ethereals, which Class is found on the Ethereal islets? Monsters which for the longest time we only knew as statues holding Diamonds? Monsters which are just asking for an island dedicated to them? The Primordials.
I believe that Primordial island is the perfect candidate for the EZI. The only real idea that's been floating around the community is that Primoridal island would combine the 5 Primordial Elements into hybrids... but that's the most boring idea ever! The Primordials are so special! They need something unique!
Of course, you'd still need to expand the Class, but with a zapping island, the designs could go crazy! Think about it, what sorts of Monster designs would be so non-functional that they wouldn't even be kept around as storage? Discarded, forgotten, unwanted failures of the Colossals. Zworaffe levels of weird! WUBLIN levels of weird!
The Primordials are a perfect fit for a new zapping island since they're already canonically in bubblerite statue form. In the Mech islet trailer, Bogle is originally in its Life-Formula Obstacle form. All you need is a lore explanation for why there's an entire island filled with thrown away Monster concepts, and Zarroë can get cooking!
Another issue I've had with the Primordials is that they're too strongly tied to the Ethereal islets, how would you justify giving them their own island? Teleporting is out of the question because only one of each is allowed to exist at a time. Well, the EZI strictly requires the islets for the eggs, so it's a perfect evolution! To awaken the Primordial statues, you still need the islets, so you don't break the connection!
Another key aspect of the Primordials is that they are HARD to get. "Primordial hunting" is a daunting, but ultimately rewarding task needed to complete each islet's song. Primordial island should therefore be a difficult experience to reflect that, albeit easier than getting one on the islets. And well, the EZI would already be difficult because of the RNG zapping. You don't have to artificially make it harder, it already fits!
Another idea I had is that zapping would be locked on an islet until you placed its respective Primordial down. A sort of right of passage, and an additional reward for getting the Primordial. Not required for the idea to work, of course.
---TL;DR---
Why the Ethereal zapping island should exist:
- the Dish-Harmonizer could zap eggs
- total of 30 zappable Ethereal eggs, just like the Natural Monsters
- it would be different from every other zapping island since Dish-Harmonizer results are random
- Ethereal islets need more purpose
- the islets would become mechanically more interesting
- Wildcards need more uses now that they're farmable on Carnival
How it would work:
- it explicitly requires the Ethereal islets
- The Dish-Harmonizer would get the zapping button just like the Breeding Structure
- since it's outputs are random, zapping is more difficult
- but, you do get 2 outputs each time
- Dish-Wishes also exist
- Ethereal island could be used as support, letting you actually choose which eggs you get
- it is balanced by the fact it only has Basethereals, Workshoppers remain exclusive to the islets
- its cooldowns are also very long
Why it should be Primordial island:
- Primordials shouldn't breed
- zapping allows for infinitely creative designs, like the Wublins
- they already canonically are in statue form
- can't teleport them from islets since you're limited to only one of each
- they're strongly tied to the Ethereal islets
- EZI requires the islets, so it doesn't break that connection
- they're also very difficult to get, and they should stay that way
- EZI is difficult by design, perfect fit
This is the most comprehensive theory I've ever written. Probably the longest as well. It's been stewing in my mind ever since Plasma islet released, and I finally put all the pieces together after writing that Zappable eggs post. Of course, it will take a while until we find out if it's correct or not. We still got 3 (pretty soon 2) islets left, and who knows how much longer we'll have to wait after that!
I don’t want an Ethereal Gold Island. I don’t see the point in it. We got regular and workshop, and we get five new islets. I am perfectly fine with what we have and don’t need anything like it. Believe me when I say that The Meebspace is peak, but I don’t think having an island like that fits the theme and I’m not sure I want that. Am I wrong for that? Lmk y’all’s opinion
With Monsters & The Dish-Harmonizer
Without Monsters
Without Monsters & The Dish-Harmonizer
Credits to @BJragonHere For the dish-harmonizer
Since I idolise the Galilean Moons (And Jupiter, hence my username), I decided to name my Rare Workshoppers after them
I wasn't able to get NiteRare, but yeah
Shadow Islet Trailer tomorrow!
38 Votes in Poll
Does anyone know what Ethereal elements the Original Wublins have?
I know that Brump has Plasma and Electricity.
This one person said that it could be based on the wublin's stability. But I don't think Zynth would have the Electricity and Shadow elements. I think Zynth should have both Electricity AND crystal elements.
Stalgy MSM, for example, made something called Wublin Spacecraft, where these new wublins also have Ethereal Elements, and not just electricity. You can look up its lore later.
I tried to sort the Wublin's stability based on the cost of coins, yet I couldn't figure out their ethereal elements (I.E, Instability), and one Electricity element.
Do any of you know what Ethereal Elements the 19 Wublins could have?
I have a link to my prediction of the Wublin's Ethereal Elements, along with the other Wublins that I made myself, along with Astroshock making the designs.
Link: https://my-singing-monsters-ideas.fandom.com/wiki/Wublithereal_Utopia
17 Votes in Poll
Name: Eletriraptor
Class: superthereal
Element: eletricity
Islands: fire haven, fire oasis, ethereal island.
Buying price: 1000 diamonds [haven and oasis] 1500 diamonds [ethereal]
Breeding:
haven: Tring + any triple-element monster
oasis: Sneyser + any triple-element monster
Breeding combo:
haven: Tring + Floogull
Oasis: Sneyser + Whaddle
Seeing a regular "O" in the MSM loading screen
Getting Epic Wubbox On Gold Island
Getting Epic Ethereals
Getting Epic Wubbox On Wublin Island (if all epic wublins release)
My singing monsters: dawn of the ethereals [msm: dote]
ITS FANMADE!
All Ethereals have 3 lives. Being selected by the wheel means you lose a life. Losing your final life eliminates you from the game, and the last Mon standing wins. Click the Bumble Beginnings tag to find previous installments of this series.
With that out of the way, let's see today's spins:
Rhysmuth has 1 life left.
Blarret has 1 life left.
Vhenshun has 2 lives left.
Grumpyre has 2 lives left.
Gadzooks has lost its final life and been eliminated, placing 22nd!
Here’s the scoreboard:
3 Lives
Whisp
Nebulob
Piplash
2 Lives
Grumpyre
Reebro
Sox
Jellbilly
Boodoo
Flasque
X’rt
Whaill
Vhenshun
Oogiddy
1 Life
Bellowfish
Dragong
Fung Pray
Yooreek
Blarret
Teeter-Tauter
Rhysmuth
-ELIMINATED-
Ghazt - 31st (Ep. 4)
BeMeebEth - 30th (Ep. 5)
Pentumbra - 29th (Ep. 7)
Humbug - 28th (Ep. 8)
Meebkin - 27th (Ep. 8)
Auglur - 26th (Ep. 8)
Jeeode - 25th (Ep. 10)
Kazzileon - 24th (Ep. 10)
Arackulele - 23rd (Ep. 10)
Gadzooks - 22nd (Ep. 11)
PongPing-List
Is it obvious that the Triplethereals+ came about a decade after the Doubles and Singles? For me, a player since '15, it sorta is, mostly because of the more complex designs and animations.
Like really, look at Jellbilly compared to Teeter-Tauter and Rhysmuth. You can tell the latter two had prep time in the oven.
You can get this island on level 23 and it’s completely free but it’s required to get Wublin Island first
Basically a giant insect nest that is half organic and half robotic/futuristic, this island holds the way ancient wublins that all have an extremely insect-like body appearance, you wake these monsters up with only ethereal monsters as these guys also somewhat related to the ethereals
You also teleport the wublins that specifically also have an insect design to this island like Zynth, Astropod, Fleechwurm and Scargo
You also need to do extra steps after you wake these monsters up since they are way much more unstable
This island probably messes up the lore of MSM and gameplay as well but this was simply a weird shower thought I had lol