Talk:Wishingtorch.com

Wishingtorch.com Edit
What is the reason Wishingtorch.com has been flagged to be deleted? It may be a positive way to help the users of the site find a good list of faithful torch lighters. It's not meant to be a negative thing but actually a positive tool to improve communication between players who light for each other. Richene Norris (talk) 23:30, March 29, 2014 (UTC) Richene Norris

I just noticed this "flagged for deletion"  and wish to add my input on the matter. First and foremost I think it is arrogant to submit for deletion a valid aid for a game that has such a wonderful following without  first  initiating a discussion and addressing publicly WHY someone feels this should be deleted!? The wishingtorch.com page is a valid resource to a valid game, and while the pages info may benefit from tweaking, I feel deletion is ridiculous. This can and should be done via discussion before any radical measures (such as deletion) are threatened or entertained. Who is presumptuous enough to feel they speak for an entire community to request decisions without first addressing it within the community that uses the info! That being said, I also feel the posting of "good" or "bad" players nics in the wikia page is not appropriate either. Since the wishingtorch site offers very small limited text commentary  input to address the dishonesty, and no way for onsite messaging, then there is not much that can be done, and to use the wikia to communicate about wishingtorch slackers is not the way to deal with the issue. Either wishingtorch will agree to allow inter-member messaging or an alternate avenue to address their abuse problem OR the wishingtorch members simply have to deal with the issue as best they can. Either way, wishing torch is a valuable tool that is much better than adding random player id's gleaned from posts or threads, because having to sign up and log in  to use wishingtorch is a deterrent in itself to abusive users.

I propose the wishingtorch page should be left in place as the valid entry that it is, and clean up the info to be simply about the site and how it works and what it offers, NOT discussing the members individual credibility.Then, since the MSM wikia has pages and tons of annoying   "add me" posts/comments of  friend id beggars, that is ignored by mods/admins and powers that be,  so have a sub-page or discussion page for the wishingtorch issue separately, that should make most readers satisfied. The PC MSM players do not have the friend lighting option so this entire issue does not concern them, but for other platforms it is a valid and appreciated tool, and understandably those non PC users wish it to work as fairly as possible.

So please, lets not jump the gun here, no one has been violated, harmed, disrespected or discriminated against... so why propose such a heavy handed recommendation without general  agreed upon approval? This is constructed by many and not to be destructed by one! There is a respectful process that needs to be first followed: utilizing  initiated discussion, then problem solving and teamwork, followed by a quorum consensus for the resolution. Remember there is no " I " in teamwork. I'll state for the record that I am FOR keeping wishingtorch page!02:58, March 30, 2014 (UTC)Skwerrel (talk)

skwerrel

all above I cut & pasted from http://mysingingmonsters.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Candidates_for_deletion (also I fixed typing errors as I have a wonky keysticking keyboard.....side effect of grandkids lol, and also a few minor edits to my post only)

Skwerrel (talk) 05:02, March 30, 2014 (UTC)